Roth vs traditional — how I model the decision

Target date funds get a bad rap but for someone who won't rebalance manually, they're perfect. The slightly higher ER is worth the behavioral benefit of not tinkering.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 4

This is the post I needed. Exactly my situation.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Feb 4

This is a masterclass. Bookmarked.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Feb 4

Love the transparency. This community needs more of this.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Feb 4

I respectfully disagree. The data suggests otherwise.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Feb 4

This is either genius or the most expensive lesson of your life.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Feb 4

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Feb 4

This is the way.

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Feb 4

Counterpoint: what happens if rates stay elevated longer?

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Feb 4

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Feb 4

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Feb 4

I've been burned by this before. Your caution is warranted.

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Feb 5

How did this perform during the 2022 drawdown?

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Feb 5

Not financial advice but I'm doing the exact same thing.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Feb 5

Love the transparency. This community needs more of this.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Feb 5

This is essentially what a financial advisor charges $5k to tell you.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Feb 5

Any thoughts on doing this in a taxable account?

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Feb 5

The math here is solid. This is what people miss.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Feb 5

Done similar analysis. Your numbers check out.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Feb 5

Appreciate the transparency here. Most people gatekeep this stuff.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Feb 5

What catalyst are you watching for?

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Feb 5

What's your thoughts on the downside risk here?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 5

How does this compare to just buying VTI and forgetting about it?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 5

FIRE community is the most underrated corner of personal finance.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Feb 6

The math here is solid. This is what people miss.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Feb 6

Have you modeled different interest rate scenarios?

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Feb 6

This is either genius or the most expensive lesson of your life.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 6

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Feb 6

This is a masterclass. Bookmarked.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Feb 6

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 6

Counterpoint: what happens if rates stay elevated longer?

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Feb 6

Have you modeled different interest rate scenarios?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 7

Appreciate the transparency here. Most people gatekeep this stuff.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Feb 7

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Feb 7

Counterpoint: what happens if rates stay elevated longer?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Feb 7

Been saying this for years. Nice to see it laid out clearly.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Feb 7

Fees really do compound in the wrong direction.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Feb 7

Appreciate you sharing the L's too. Most people only post wins.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Feb 7

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Feb 8

Have you modeled different interest rate scenarios?

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Feb 8

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Feb 8

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Feb 8

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Feb 8

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Feb 8

Be careful about survivorship bias in this analysis.

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Feb 8

How does this compare to just buying VTI and forgetting about it?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 9

The psychology of money matters as much as the math.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Feb 9

I was skeptical at first but this changed my mind.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 9

I've been burned by this before. Your caution is warranted.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Feb 9

Appreciate you sharing the L's too. Most people only post wins.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Feb 9

Good luck! Keep us updated.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Feb 9

This is why I come to this community. Real numbers, real analysis.

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Feb 10

I've been burned by this before. Your caution is warranted.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Feb 10

Real talk: most people can't stick to this when it gets hard.

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Feb 10

Not financial advice but I'm doing the exact same thing.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Feb 11

Not financial advice but I'm doing the exact same thing.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Feb 11

The psychology of money matters as much as the math.

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