Lean FIRE vs Fat FIRE — where do you fall?

Healthcare is the hidden FIRE variable. At 41, I'm paying $487/month for a bronze plan (ACA). Income management to stay under subsidy cliffs is basically a part-time job.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 21

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Mar 21

I've been thinking about this too. What's your time horizon?

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 21

What's your target withdrawal rate in retirement?

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 21

Real talk: most people can't stick to this when it gets hard.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 21

The math here is solid. This is what people miss.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 21

Appreciate you sharing the L's too. Most people only post wins.

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Mar 21

This is why I come to this community. Real numbers, real analysis.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 21

Real talk: most people can't stick to this when it gets hard.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 22

Appreciate you sharing the L's too. Most people only post wins.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 22

How long have you been doing this? Impressive numbers.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 22

How did this perform during the 2022 drawdown?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 22

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 22

Fees really do compound in the wrong direction.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 22

Mind sharing your full allocation?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 22

I respectfully disagree. The data suggests otherwise.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 22

What brokerage are you using for this?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 22

Exactly. The sequence-of-returns issue is severely underappreciated.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 22

How did this perform during the 2022 drawdown?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 22

I've been thinking about this too. What's your time horizon?

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Mar 22

This is the post I needed. Exactly my situation.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 22

How did this perform during the 2022 drawdown?

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 22

I was skeptical at first but this changed my mind.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 23

What's your thoughts on the downside risk here?

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 23

This is exactly what I needed to read today.

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 23

This is either genius or the most expensive lesson of your life.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 23

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 23

This is exactly what I needed to read today.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 23

Any thoughts on doing this in a taxable account?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 23

Good luck! Keep us updated.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 23

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Mar 24

This is essentially what a financial advisor charges $5k to tell you.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 24

FIRE community is the most underrated corner of personal finance.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 24

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 24

The behavioral aspect of investing is so underrated.

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Mar 24

Done similar analysis. Your numbers check out.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 24

Interesting perspective. I see it differently — happy to elaborate.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 24

I respectfully disagree. The data suggests otherwise.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 24

This is a solid framework. Saving this post.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 24

Have you stress tested this against a 40% drawdown?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 24

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 24

This is why I come to this community. Real numbers, real analysis.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 24

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Mar 24

The math here is solid. This is what people miss.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 24

The international allocation debate never gets old.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 25

Done similar analysis. Your numbers check out.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 25

What brokerage are you using for this?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 25

Good luck! Keep us updated.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 25

Have you modeled different interest rate scenarios?

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 25

I've been burned by this before. Your caution is warranted.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 25

This is exactly what I needed to read today.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 25

The math here is solid. This is what people miss.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Mar 25

This is either genius or the most expensive lesson of your life.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 25

This is essentially what a financial advisor charges $5k to tell you.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 25

FIRE community is the most underrated corner of personal finance.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 25

Good luck! Keep us updated.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 25

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 25

What's your thoughts on the downside risk here?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 25

What's your target withdrawal rate in retirement?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 25

Have you stress tested this against a 40% drawdown?

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Mar 25

Be careful about survivorship bias in this analysis.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 26

I was skeptical at first but this changed my mind.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 26

Exactly. The sequence-of-returns issue is severely underappreciated.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 26

The psychology of money matters as much as the math.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 26

Interesting perspective. I see it differently — happy to elaborate.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 26

Appreciate the transparency here. Most people gatekeep this stuff.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 26

Real talk: most people can't stick to this when it gets hard.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 26

This is a solid framework. Saving this post.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 26

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 26

What's your target withdrawal rate in retirement?

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Mar 26

Counterpoint: what happens if rates stay elevated longer?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 26

How did this perform during the 2022 drawdown?

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 26

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 27

Great post, thanks for sharing this.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 27

The behavioral aspect of investing is so underrated.

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Mar 27

Any thoughts on doing this in a taxable account?

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 27

Real talk: most people can't stick to this when it gets hard.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 27

What's your target withdrawal rate in retirement?

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 27

Love the transparency. This community needs more of this.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 27

Any thoughts on doing this in a taxable account?

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 27

This is why I come to this community. Real numbers, real analysis.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 27

This is why I come to this community. Real numbers, real analysis.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 28

Done similar analysis. Your numbers check out.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 28

The international allocation debate never gets old.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 28

The international allocation debate never gets old.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 28

Appreciate you sharing the L's too. Most people only post wins.

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