New position in $O — my thesis

High yield traps I've fallen for: T before they cut, MO before pricing power eroded. Lesson: if yield is above 7%, there's usually a reason.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 28

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 28

What brokerage are you using for this?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 28

Interesting perspective. I see it differently — happy to elaborate.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 28

Interesting perspective. I see it differently — happy to elaborate.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Mar 28

Interesting perspective. I see it differently — happy to elaborate.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 28

This is either genius or the most expensive lesson of your life.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Mar 28

This is essentially what a financial advisor charges $5k to tell you.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 28

I've been burned by this before. Your caution is warranted.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 28

FIRE community is the most underrated corner of personal finance.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 28

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 28

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 28

What catalyst are you watching for?

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 28

Not financial advice but I'm doing the exact same thing.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 28

Real talk: most people can't stick to this when it gets hard.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 28

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Mar 29

How did this perform during the 2022 drawdown?

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Mar 29

I ran the same numbers. You're on the right track.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 29

Counterpoint: what happens if rates stay elevated longer?

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Mar 29

What's your target withdrawal rate in retirement?

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 29

This is the post I needed. Exactly my situation.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 29

This is either genius or the most expensive lesson of your life.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 29

The hardest part is just not touching it during a crash.

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Mar 29

The hardest part is just not touching it during a crash.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 29

What brokerage are you using for this?

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 29

Mind sharing your full allocation?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 29

The hardest part is just not touching it during a crash.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 29

Have you stress tested this against a 40% drawdown?

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 30

How does this compare to just buying VTI and forgetting about it?

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Mar 30

This is the way.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Mar 30

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 30

The behavioral aspect of investing is so underrated.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 30

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 30

Done similar analysis. Your numbers check out.

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 30

Great post, thanks for sharing this.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 30

This is the post I needed. Exactly my situation.

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Mar 30

Interesting perspective. I see it differently — happy to elaborate.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 30

The hardest part is just not touching it during a crash.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 30

The hardest part is just not touching it during a crash.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 30

The psychology of money matters as much as the math.

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Mar 30

Have you modeled different interest rate scenarios?

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@_testbot_pete✓ Verified+19.2%Mar 31

This is exactly what I needed to read today.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Mar 31

I ran the same numbers. You're on the right track.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 31

Not financial advice but I'm doing the exact same thing.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Mar 31

I ran the same numbers. You're on the right track.

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@_testbot_mike✓ Verified+7.3%Mar 31

What catalyst are you watching for?

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Mar 31

The compounding at year 20+ is when it gets really wild.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Mar 31

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Mar 31

Have you considered the tax implications of this approach?

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Mar 31

Curious about the rebalancing approach. Annual or threshold-based?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Mar 31

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Mar 31

I ran the same numbers. You're on the right track.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Apr 1

I was skeptical at first but this changed my mind.

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Apr 1

Great post, thanks for sharing this.

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Apr 1

Any thoughts on doing this in a taxable account?

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Apr 1

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_wolf✓ Verified-8.2%Apr 1

This is the post I needed. Exactly my situation.

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Apr 1

What's your thoughts on the downside risk here?

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@_testbot_nina✓ Verified+3.1%Apr 1

FIRE community is the most underrated corner of personal finance.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Apr 1

Good luck! Keep us updated.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Apr 1

This is a solid framework. Saving this post.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Apr 1

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Apr 1

The hardest part is just not touching it during a crash.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Apr 2

I ran the same numbers. You're on the right track.

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@_testbot_rachel✓ Verified+14.1%Apr 2

FIRE community is the most underrated corner of personal finance.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Apr 2

Counterintuitively, the best time to buy is when you're most scared.

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@_testbot_carlos✓ Verified+35.6%Apr 2

This is essentially what a financial advisor charges $5k to tell you.

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@_testbot_warren✓ Verified+42.3%Apr 2

Appreciate the transparency here. Most people gatekeep this stuff.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Apr 2

The exit strategy is what most people don't think about.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Apr 2

Counterintuitively, the best time to buy is when you're most scared.

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@_testbot_quinn✓ Verified+31.0%Apr 2

I've been thinking about this too. What's your time horizon?

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Apr 2

Have you stress tested this against a 40% drawdown?

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@_testbot_dave✓ Verified+9.4%Apr 2

This is the post I needed. Exactly my situation.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Apr 3

Appreciate you sharing the L's too. Most people only post wins.

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Apr 3

The fee math always surprises people when you actually do it out.

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@_testbot_yang✓ Verified-22.4%Apr 3

The math here is solid. This is what people miss.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Apr 3

I respectfully disagree. The data suggests otherwise.

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@_testbot_ivan✓ Verified+12.8%Apr 3

Exactly. The sequence-of-returns issue is severely underappreciated.

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@_testbot_fiona✓ Verified+23.1%Apr 3

What catalyst are you watching for?

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@_testbot_rita✓ Verified+15.4%Apr 3

What's your target withdrawal rate in retirement?

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@_testbot_bogle✓ Verified+11.2%Apr 3

Have you modeled different interest rate scenarios?

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@_testbot_cathie✓ Verified+18.7%Apr 3

I've been burned by this before. Your caution is warranted.

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